Milwaukee Bucks President Peter Feigin speaking at the opening of the team's new training center in downtown Milwaukee as Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett . Youve got Jamie Dimon, who is this incredible long-term equity holder who is done it and then youve got Mike Fascitelli whos really was the chairman and CEO of Vornado Real Estate in New York on the commercial real estate side. Peter's Hairless Twin is a twin brother Peter Griffin keeps locked up in a storm shed. And I think the balance is really, really tough because you know what an NBA season is. And how do we capture that, both digitally and on broadcast? Here in a million person city and your ability to affect change, your platform, your ability to really make a difference is so incredible. Michael Red: Well, I love you back. Id been in a big market. This is why you go to Parents' Night, folks. It has just been introduced for iPhones, but we are working on the Android version! John: This edition of the impact podcast is brought to you by Engage. Everythings got to be perfect to do it and dont realize because like, hey, Ive never won a championship before, never run a ring so I just started the process and I didnt realize which I now do and why our owners wanted to be intimately involved with the design of the ring. But I will tell you that most cathartic incredible, awesome thing, which everybody told me and again, the collaborative is awesome. He simplified the commodities business like, oh, I understand it now. Where does it sit? So, these guys are thrown into a world where they're responsible for everything, they assume they know everything, and what their experience is. Peter: Yeah, it is a combination of both because you really, I had a real rare opportunity to get out of sports and work outside of the sports industry for wealth. That was out the door. The way it works is they closed in April. By the way, Aaron is a fanatical basketball fan, and by the way, a regular classic Wisconsin superstar wants to come to a game, pays for his ticket wants to be left to watch the game. So, we continue to want to make this a place where players are like, "Shit, I've never been treated like this.". Enter your name and email address below and I'll send you periodic updates about the podcast. So, for people who run businesses, to have an operator who's really geared up and wants to drive revenue is kind of like a positive thing, especially for Mark and Wes. He ends up being a generational player like you couldnt, if you were writing a Disney movie, which they have now written and now produced, it would be the fodder for a Disney. "Scott Walker was just at the beginning of a presidential campaign. The Runs roots date to the early 1980s, when Lee became childhood friends with the Feigin brothers. People who do argue are kind of not allowed back.. John: Thats so great. Ive had some of my employees have been there and they say, its just amazing, just a wonderful place to watch a sporting event and Im just talking to one this morning and he just said, Great place, just a great arena.Were not going to go through this interview without talking, of course, about Giannis. But the Bucks' toughest hit came off the court. We got to like we want to use our platform to affect change and change the world. During a media car wash in NYC in December, Feigin opts for a sweater, not a suit and tie. It just kind of really trying. Michael Red: I don't know if that's the responsibility of the organization to have that permeate throughout the city, but have you seen a shift in Milwaukee, even when it comes to people coming together from different races and different creeds? And it became one of the greatest things ever. Thats a good run. And it was kind of an incredible moment. This is probably the best hour of the week. But in a short period of time, the prospect and the opportunity of just not running a team, but kind of building a city and the real estate and the expansion and kind of where Milwaukee was as a city and kind of an inflection point was just kind of one of these miracle situations. But, boy, you talk about how you go to sleep like the night, a night in March, in the middle of March last year thinking like, "Oh, my God. I heard or to make the statement, are you the employee of the month? Feigin got the funding approved in the next couple months, and the Bucks signed a 30-year lease to stay in Milwaukee. Peter Feigin: So, we saw this as the opportunity of, "Oh my goodness. As you get older, its just harder to keep up with everybody., Christopher dAmboise, a former principal dancer, Adam Keefe, a former N.B.A. He really taught me the lesson late in life is the real geniuses or the ones who can take these complex things and talk to me about them and I understand them. And we sat down as organization with the players, with the owners, with the executives and just said like, "Oh, we're going to double down." Peter Feigin: And I think, even when we looked at ourselves we're completely diverse, but we weren't anywhere near where we should have been on the leadership side of being a diverse leadership. View career paths Pre-College Business Emerging Leaders (BEL) But while it is nice to connect, Kearns described the calls as artificial sweetener. It is not the same. Peter: got to do what youre going to say and say what youre going to do and really be substantial. In business it takes a real challenging of like where your growth is going to come from I in a big way. Like the Kees, you're going to hopefully be doing something you love with people you love and working your butt off, but there are expectations. It's kind of like the joy of, like I said, I was a rough athlete compared to the Olympian and All-Star I'm talking to. I took great pride in seeing the development of downtown and what you guys were doing with the city. And like, "Hey, you got to hear my idea," or something. Peter Feigin: Well, Mr. Red, it's kind of for naught, I'd do anything for you, so this is an easy period of time. Listen, for the rest of my life, having a boycott for the game in the bubble where we put a pause in the world. How did you put the stadium deal together? It all starts with the answer, right? I just wanted to get it done and kind of move the needle and kind of. I've known Jon for, I don't know, 13, 14 years, and to see what he's done with the team as the general manager has been really impressive. For Feigin, Lasry, Edens, Dinan, head coach Jason Kidd and the entire organization, Antetokounmpo, born and raised in Greece to Nigerian immigrants, is a business unicorn. It's got so many other opportunities I never would have thought of ever." We got here and kind of the first job was to look for a site and the second job was to really get public backing to build an arena, to demolish the Bradley Center and build a new arena, which were monumental big things to happen. It's like how do we, between us, like as you know. Peter Feigin readily admits that, as president of the Milwaukee Bucks, he lives in the fantasy world of professional sports. Daniel connected the partners with Peter, then chief marketing and revenue officer of Deluxe Entertainment Services Group, to analyze the franchise from a sales and development angle. While previous owner Herb Kohl, the five-term U.S. senator from Wisconsin, stood in high regard in Milwaukee, the franchise had begun to slip. It's truly like a restart. But, you want to be in a place where people care about you? John: Whos raising their hand saying Dad, were all in with you. How does this work? I've been telling him. High draft picks such as Andrew Bogut, Yi Jianlian, Joe Alexander and Brandon Jennings hadn't panned out. Feigin's first task was evident right away. Mike, you get it because you lived it. "Instantaneously, overnight, we have 30 million people playing NBA 2K around the world, probably more, so we begin a league and we have competition on a global basis. Not only do you have to have the best facilities, the best resources, no reason for anybody to say, What want to be, you got to be good people. I understood what a call to action was. Talk a little bit about where you even grew up, how you even got here. For our listeners and viewers out there, to find Peter Feigin and the Milwaukee Bucks, you always could go to bucks.com. Well, you got to be beyond on top of your game. Youre the ultimate insider. That's kind of a surreal experience in NBA arenas.". How do we become attractive and bring more companies here and bring more empty nesters and college graduates and make this a really attractive place to live. John: Got it. It was important for us for our players, for our organization, for the city to stand up. Im probably like someone who gives everything away. Peter, before I let you go, I have to ask you. I wanted to be in marketing in sales. Whether it's police reform, whether it's incarceration, whether it's education, whether it's food desert. I think if I had kind of the listening skills that I still need to get better at, I would be better at kind of understanding. Peter: John, the best. I think weve gravitated again with a lot of people weve brought in to engage and get it done. 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My father happened to pass away probably within a couple months and very close with Mark and Wes, who basically at that time said, Well, you now have to really consider this and do this. And at the time, I always say, I was their last hope because of the timing of the acquisition. And I knew who Arthur Ashe was, but I wasn't a big tennis guy and my job was basically being Arthur Ashe's right hand person through. And the family went into the most unique times that we've ever seen in our lifetime a year ago. It was July. Now, youre talking to your wife and your children and youre moving from New York City to Wisconsin. You sound super excited about the future. This years edition comes stamped with the Roman numeral XXVIII, to commemorate the games 28 years of existence. Peter Feigin, youre making an amazing impact. You and I go back since you came back to the Bucks or since you came to the Bucks and you guys have been incredible to me over the years since you've been in a position in Milwaukee and really grateful of our friendship over the years and how the organization has welcomed me back to the organization. "I did kind of the 'Dick Cheney.' Peter: The same he is, everywhere else. Peter: Well, I made one of the biggest mistakes ever to begin with. But the honesty of saying you dont know all the answers and figuring out what the solutions are is probably like pretty powerful in the way things work. That was the real mad man era that your mom was in at Grey Advertising, right? This is the Impact Podcast. And that's kind of the way I think about everything. "We really want it to be a model around the world. How could we keep everybody afloat as long as we possibly could? She couldn't be more supporting from everything. Because I know a lot of coaches, lot of presidents, lot of GMs, I run into them and I ask them, can I look at your ring? The one thing about you that I've seen over the years is that you keep the culture in a funny mood, right? Peter: We have two kids. You build this infrastructure and skill set that is geared toward a championship. Now you win, you have the championship. Its like winning the life lottery.. Hes with us today. The future for the Bucks, championship, championship, championship, and obviously getting fans back at the games. Michael Red: And then with all that going on around you, I mean, navigating the waters from a business standpoint. Peter: Start from, yeah, start from the beginning. His talents, hard work and dedication are the driving force behind the transformational vision for not only the Milwaukee Bucks and Fiserv Forum, but for the city of Milwaukee and state of Wisconsin. It's hard to build trust here and it's provincial. His own social presence is so valuable, is so great. And a diverse community gives us diverse thought, gives us better outcomes. And I've got to get Mark and Wes on the cast along with Jon. We pivoted and our kids were able to finish high school in New York and we made it work and now weve been Wisconsin residents from New York City, which is a whole other interesting transition. Youre going to have to work your butt off because its work. Talk about that process. Heading into his ninth year as President of the Milwaukee Bucks, and fifth year as President of the world-class Fiserv Forum, Peter Feigin brings more than two decades of dynamic corporate leadership to Milwaukees sports and entertainment scene. Defenders are responsible for calling fouls. And people like Wisconsinites are close to imagine a fast-talking New Yorker coming in and kind of standing on the soapbox promising the world and kind of great change and a great building. That can only come from one or two people in the entire organization. There's no business." Well, a year ago, yesterday, we went to zero. Lee, 50, has worked to keep in shape by doing yoga and shooting hoops in his backyard. We always tell people, listen, if you want to work here, youre going to have to collaborate with people. "We have a really simple mantra. Just my own exposure was mixed in what are best practices for centralized services. That was my dream of dreams when I was a kid: Oh, my God. I think its hard to grasp where this is going, but it professionalizes players at this, Peter: point teenagers at a much earlier level than theyve ever been. Feigin says Bucks Gaming will consist of roughly 10 full-time employees, including the team's five players, who will be housed by the franchise. People can find it at, I saw the website, it was Cluckery, cluckery.com, right? We're not only going to be public, we're going to privately help kind of move the cause and funding. Now, the lockdown has forced some of The Runs longstanding members to confront their athletic mortality. It so happens Bucks co-owners Marc Lasry and Wes Edens sent their children to Trevor Day. Thats for every aspect of it. How do we affect the community together? His company, Fortress Investment Group, also owns the eSports team FlyQuest. "I got to tell you the enthusiasm Peter has brought to the city has been brought right back. Just try to be quiet. Youve got Wes Edens who has probably started up dozens of companies in private equity and has an unbelievable kind of entrepreneurial spirit. John: Unbelievable. I will say one of the big advantages of the national basketball association is it truly is a collaborative, like on the court we are competitive. You miss falling on the ground, Dan Feigin said. And I think it was like a checkpoint for us certainly, but for the whole country on like, "Boy, this is one of those inflection points that we've got to make matter in a big way." You start and now talk about the major, like you said, you got a great human capital person, you got a great CFO. I always think it comes back. While Feigin can watch Antetokounmpo and the Bucks any time he wants on NBA 2K or social media -- "The truth is our digital channels are ten times like what our local broadcasts are," he says -- he has the distinct pleasure in Milwaukee of actually getting to catch the action in person. What advice can you share backwards to the young people out there that want to live your journey or something close to it? Just go beyond the scoreboard and championships that you guys get to make in your community, that you are proud of, Peter. Peter Feigin: I think nobody could have imagined what that does to you on a personal psychological emotional level. I also listen, I thought, and my parents thought both my brother and I were as you can imagine before ADD was actually diagnosed, Peter: for kids our age and stuff, because its still be on impulsive, relentless, like, [inaudible]. We scaled the company up to, a little bit under a billion dollars. Here's your Asian Americans. And there is no magic wand that kind of changes this in six months. It became such a healthy place to be.. Peter Feigin: And how do you rethink your strategies for retail? With a B? Woodhouse recalled asking him. Peter: I went to Franklin and Marshall College, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Peter Feigin: Hey, John thanks for having me. Jesse the Jet, no question. The Run also often doubles as a day care. The entity at the center of the controversy the Milwaukee Bucks didn't waste time jumping in. We were in this really awesome mode of, oh, this is a startup, like this is a startup. Im like, we actually, might have a chance to get this done and to make a long story short, and unfortunately my twin brother thinks like I owe him a commission, for. You talk about advantages, just the osmosis at our dinner table was I knew in two seconds like I wanted to be in business. Peter Feigin: Yeah, I think number one, it's restarting the business. So, it's really about cost containment and preservation of jobs. Thats. And we'll get to social injustice in a bit. When Khris was a rookie, I said, "Do you know whose jersey you wearing?" Peter Feigin, President of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks and formerly Vice President of Marketing for the New York Knicks and Director of Marketing at Six Flags, joins me on the podcast today. When he called Milwaukee "the most segregated, racist place I've ever experience in my life" in 2016, Feigin was just being a straight shooter intent on improving the neighborhood. Peter: Well, I think first of all, everything is like, you plan to be great. Social media has created an avenue to spread the Bucks' brand beyond Milwaukee and the United States. So it was kind of building rapport and trust was the only way to kind of get this done. The arena is Feigin's baby, and he's almost ready to show it off, as doors will open next season. Peter: NIL has no guardrails, no anything whos getting paid what? That is an interesting statement. How do you balance with that and how do you create that menu that people can pick and choose from? Everybody knows you are going to work your butt off if you work here. These guys are human beings. These are special socks, so you bring me back a pair of socks. Peter Feigin: I think building the relationship with Mark, probably through looking at other purchase opportunities and kind of talking through it. And that is one of the best ways to summarize Peter's spirit. And I know how much you love your brother and your family, your wife, your kids. We are one big family. Whos got next? Lee said. 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